I found it really interesting and funny to read some of the comments people made about my last comic 30 years of little girls learning dance moves from music videos around the web, especially on Tumblr, which is known to be a social network used by young or very young people.
First, there were people who could relate to the comic, those – mostly with kids – who felt concerned by the thing, and those who laughed.
Then there were those who summarized my comic by saying “I think it’s funny to see all the parents powerless in the comic when they’re supposed to be the ones in control” and “how did that little girl made these knots anyway, terrible parenting” and “so it was all Shakira ‘s fault right” because the turning point of my comic takes place in 2001 with Shakira. (Believe me when I say I do not think Shakira is the worst example for our girls, far from it. I actually like Shakira a lot.) But this is a comic people, a comic summerizes things. Illustrates things.
And then there were those saying that my comic was too alarmist, putting forward the fact that in the 80s and 90s as well there were singers who showed everything and had sexually explicit attitudes, and that it has always been the parents’ responsability to monitor what their children watch on TV anyway, that people have been complaining about raunchy music since the very beginning of music so that there was nothing new nor smart in my comic. Ouch.
What I found even more interesting is that most of the people who expressed these opinions – I did not say all, I said most, didn’t check them all one by one – were young or very young persons, 15 years old, 16, 19, 20. Like if they were offended that someone would criticize the time they live in. Just like we were offended when our parents and grandparents said “In my time things were different/better.” Am I that old ? Maybe. 🙂
It reminded me that history repeats itself, again and again. We can only see through our own eyes and teens born in the late 90s or later cannot really conceive the world as it was before their birth, just like people like me, born or raised in the 80s, could not conceive the world of their parents, and our parents before us and so on.
So yes, the point of view of the comic is mine, a person who grew up in the 80’s. A person who also thinks that only because some things were said before doesn’t mean that what is said now is not true. A person who was once a teenager too who also thought she had it all figured out. And also a person of my time, who happens to not think that being of my time means I have to agree to everything that is going on in my time. Where would change come from if everybody agreed to everything?
Therefore what I will say is addressed to you, today’s young people, who think that seeing mainstream female singers showing their beautiful asses in their music videos is nothing new, to you who think that seeing young women in bikinis shaking their asses in pools next to a male singer or rapper everyday has no effect on you nor on society, to you who see nothing wrong seeing child stars taking a 180 degrees turn, going from the cute little girl with pigtails to the young hottie in a g-string, and especially to you who think that the Internet, laptops and smartphones have always existed.
Over sexualization in music videos
I’ll start by answering those who said there’s always been sexually explicit music videos, even in the 80s and the 90s, that Lil ‘Kim was there at the same time as TLC, Adina Howard too, and that Janet Jackson also made sexually explicit videos where she was half naked and that she is and I quote “the freakiest of freaks”.
My answer is very simple : that is not true. Not in the way you mean it.
Yes, there was sexuality in music videos before. Not as much as there is today, but there was some. I never said there wasn’t. Again, my comic was made to make a point, so it summarizes. I wasn’t writing a movie or a book, it’s a comic.
Yes Janet Jackson suddenly started to talk about sex in an outrageous way but if you look at my comic closely, you’ll see I picked two songs from the time when she didn’t. And yes singers like Lil’Kim did contribute to the introduction to what was going to happen next. Is that an excuse to let it go further and further and worse and out of control ?
Mainstream artists and underground artists don’t have the same power
I also think it is important to differentiate between a mainstream international big star singer and another one.
When Lil’Kim released Hard Core in 1996, along with her music videos, she was not mainstream. Every little girl in the US and around the world was not listening to Lil’Kim, she was not a role model, she was not THE singer every little girl wanted to be and was trying to emulate her every move.
Again, the problem in my opinion is that the singers we see today half naked, shaking their naked asses, dancing in their underpants showing their crotch, are mainstream artists we see everywhere on TV and magazines and hear all day long on the radio. They’re the ones who serve as models for little girls today. Little girls today simply cannot escape from them. Even though this girl wrote somewhere it’s the parents responsibility to choose the music their children are listening too. Oh you mean like our grandparents managed to keep our parents away from Elvis and the Beatles ?
Millions of little girls loved Christina Aguilera – who came out of Disney let’s not forget that – who became famous thanks to Genie in a bottle, a video in which she wore hideous wide orange pants and was almost candidly looking at the camera. She became mainstream. Her fans weren’t much older when three years later, the same Christina, who had meanwhile become Britney’s first rival, appeared in panties, spreading her legs wide and showing her butt in Dirrty. The same young fans, who loved her when she was cute and girly, were still watching.
If Lil Kim shocked in her time, it’s because no one did what she did by then. What she did was different. New. Weird. It was not the NORM. It was not mainstream.
Today, the music industry wants everyone to think that it’s normal for a female singer to show her ass, her crotch, her tongue or to publicly rub her ass against a male singer’s genitals on a show that is known to be watched by millions of teens in the US. They also want us to think it’s normal for female singers to sing songs in which they call themselves and other women “bitches”, and when I read a young girl say “there always was sexuality in music”, I know they have succeeded. But sweetheart, I can remember a time when there was no connection between singing and stripping. And FYI, there are still today some singers who just sing. YES. Singing with no stripping. Some even write some amazingly empowering lyrics.
From the women’s liberation movement back to the objectification of women
A little bit of history. The parents of my generation are from what is called the sexual revolution. From the 60s to the late 70s, the face of the Western world changed. Emancipation of women, birth control and right to abortion. Minds were changing. Women had decided they would be the equals of men. They had been fighting for that. They no longer wanted this patriarchal society. They no longer wanted to be “own” by men. They wanted to be free, to be respected, to work, to earn money, to own businesses.
Don’t you find strange that the further we get away from these times, the more women go back to being objectified ? The more men are allowed to objectify women again ? Don’t be fooled. If men are allowed and even encouraged to objectify women they see on TV, what do you think they will do in real life with women they meet ?
Parental control back in the 80s
Let’s go back to our parents. Most of our parents did not see music as a danger to morality. They let their parents think that if they wanted to. In general, the thing bothering our parents wasn’t the music we were listening to, it was how loud we listened to it. Besides that, most of us could listen to whatever we wanted. I can’t remember one little classmate telling me ” My parents do not want me to listen to Madonna”, when, let’s face it, she was one of the most sexualized singers we had at that time, but it was done in a way that went over little girls minds. And although some parents didn’t want to hear rap music well… some kids must have been listening to it anyway as it’s now one of the biggest sellers.
We also were living in a time when everything was more controlled and monitored.
Although “absolute freedom” has always been teens first fantasy – I’ve been there – and that you – the youngest – might feel sorry for those of us who didn’t have access to everything through the internet, you will have to grow up to realize that there are pros and cons to everything in life and that in a way we were lucky to not being able to see whatever we wanted.
If parents said ” No, you’re not gonna watch “A Nightmare on Elm Street 3″, you’ll have nightmares.” we simply couldn’t watch it. And if we tried to see it on a VHS at a friend’s place, we were doing so having heart palpitations, hoping our parents wouldn’t find us there. We knew we were watching something we were not allowed to watch, something that was not for children.
If the censorship in 92 said : “No you are not gonna see Madonna’s new music video Erotica, it’s too sexually explicit.” we couldn’t see it and that was it. At that time we couldn’t secretly get on our laptop or our father’s computer to watch it. Wasn’t on TV ? Didn’t see it.
Parents VS internet and the new technologies
Today, kids own smartphones, iPads, TVs, laptops or computers at a very young age. If they don’t own one, their big sister do. Internet is everywhere, and parental control is not effective enough for my friend’s 8yo NOT to come across last Rihanna’s video, “Pour it up”. With the internet and all its devices, it all got out of control, not to mention that sex is all over the place now, in music videos, song lyrics, movies, commercials, magazines, and of course on the internet… It all got out of control for the parents. For the music industry and all the other industries connected to it, it simply all got easier to do what they wanted to do.
A study shows that each year, 14,000 sexual references are shown on television only. Little girls’ minds have no filtering tools and no firewalls against that. Of course parents must monitor what their children are watching, but again, this is everywhere, everyday and all the time. Parents can’t follow and watch their kids 24/7.
In the 80s and the 90s, they trusted the censorship to help them protect their children’s minds, and even if by then the censorship didn’t work perfectly – thankfully, I’m not a fan of dictatorship don’t worry – now they’re on their own, trying to fight TV, radio and the internet all at the same time. That’s impossible.
Every girl is born with a brain
Another girl said that parents should request more of what they wanted their kids to listen to. Yes. Agreed. But do you ever take responsibility for yourself ? Being young doesn’t forbid you to think and then to act for your own interest you know. Like some people decide to eat healthy food instead of eating fast food for their own good, you are free to decide to listen to some more inspiring music. There is a lot of music out there besides what you hear on the radio. Who could tell how all of this happened ? Did the media forced us into this ? Didn’t women accepted it and dive into it ? The chicken or the egg ? That simply doesn’t matter. What matters is that individuals decide to change their own habits. “I’m starting with the man in the mirror / I’m asking him to change his ways / And no message could have been clearer / If you wanna make the world a better place” – Michael Jackson.
Childhood needs protection
Some of you try to reassure themselves saying that none of this affects you.
All I can say is that when my friend’s 10yo daughter asked her mom to buy her a thong, my friend almost fainted. When another friend’s 4yo daughter started slapping her own butt in front of everyone at a family reunion, she too almost lost it.
You may think it’s nothing or funny, because you see the world from behind your own eyes and that this is the only version of the world you know and that you see it through your young age, but still being so close to childhood you don’t understand that there is a time for everything and that there is a time for childhood, that childhood is sacred, short and that when it’s gone it never comes back. You’re just too much in a hurry to grow up to understand this yet and it’s perfectly normal.
Childhood needs protection, it’s a time for freedom, frivolity, a time when young minds are shaped to become tomorrow’s great minds. You have to let children be children.
Today’s little girls have not yet finished to construct their own identities that they are already looking for a boyfriend, to then feel depreciated when they don’t find one. Then they feel dumb if they don’t speak about sex or don’t dress in a sexy way and they feel retarded if they don’t have sex in mind by the age of 13. Meanwhile, in stores, they sell child size thongs, child size padded bras, child size high heels, Playboy-branded stationery for teenage girls and toy stripper poles. Yeah. Your read me right.
When your sex appeal defines you
On one hand, women have always been taught that what people think of them defines them. They must be beautiful, thin, dressed in a certain way. They need to know how to be sexy and how to seduce. On the other hand, little girls have always been looking for female role models to imitate, to relate to. With sex taking over movies, music videos, magazines, commercials and songs lyrics,what today’s little girls are learning is that their worth is determined by their sex appeal, nothing else.
The thing is, nature knows best, so young girls are not naturally interested in sex before a certain age. What does this lead to ? A huge gap between young girls’ actual minds and what they think they should be doing or being because of what they see or are being told. This is one of the sources of girls and women’s biggest issue of all times : low self-esteem.
A Canadian study shows that the more a girl lacks of self-confidence, the more she is likely to accept or suffer sexual advances. Whether to please, to feel accepted, to be part of the gang or to not be left out, she accepts. And the vicious circle never ends : boys receive sex signals from girls everywhere on TV and are looking for the same in real life, inspired by their models, girls send sex signals to boys who see girls as sex objects who behave as sex objects to please the boys and so on. And there is the end of childhood.
That’s what happens when looks matter more than personality. Girls have always been caring and will always care about what other people think, especially what men think. But we’re all born different so we can’t all look like what we see on TV (thank God). This leads to having complexes. This leads to unhappy little girls who will become unhappy women.
But while every girl is not born a supermodel or a knockout, every girl is born with a brain, and every brain can be fed with good things, leaving no empty space to be filled with crap. If the singers we see everywhere everyday made more lyrics and videos encouraging girls and women to be proud and strong, to love themselves, to educate themselves, to respect themselves, to have ambition and to demand respect from others, to love and respect life, to be optimistic, instead of talking about sex or suicide, or instead of calling other women bitches and hoes, things would be different.
Some singers are trying to send positive and strong messages, you’ve heard them. Maybe. They don’t have half the budget and the means singers like Rihanna or Lady Gaga have. That’s not the messages the music industry and the industries connected to it want you to hear. They want to sell a lot, and they know what sells today. And as whoever shouts the loudest wins, you’re more likely to hear Rihanna talking about S&M sex and suicide like in Russian Roulette everywhere than anything else.
In the end, everything is connected. The music industry is connected to the media industry which is connected to the fashion industry which is connected to the cosmetic industry and so on. They know very well that having sexualized girls shown on TV, they will sell more albums to men and to teenagers. They know very well that having girls and women look up to role models who are obsessed with their looks and sex appeal, they will sell more clothes, more shoes, more cosmetics, more cosmetic surgery, more botox, more more more… starting with always younger girls all around the world.
These are some of the reasons why today, international mainstream music female superstars are the ones we see jiggling and slapping their naked or almost naked asses in the music videos and I’m sorry young ladies but no, this is not normal.
lizzyloveslipstick says
Fantastic post!! I have written a post called ‘more sex please?’ But actually after reading this I think it should be called ‘Better sex please!’ We shouldn’t be ashamed of our sexuality but in mainstream media sex is so seedy, and almost mysoginst… Somehow I hope I can help raise my daughter to value herself and others but its tough because all the ‘role models’ are poor to say the least….sex needs some more respect & romance & beauty about it!! Thanks for the thoughts…. Xx
tallncurly says
Thank you !!! 🙂
“sex needs some more respect & romance & beauty about it” YES !!!
As long as she got you as a mom, your girl will be doing just fine 😉 Will definitely check out your post !
Genimsaj says
I’m 18 and there was a lot of hidden feelings within my heart that was just spoken out across this screen. Honestly, I feel so old-fashioned when I tell my roommates that I’m not sleeping with my boyfriend and they bring it out as if it is a problem. Does the media have something to do with that? Probably. But I can definitely say the effects of what the media and mainstream produce affects our society strongly. Where conservativeness or taking a slower approach to the sex lane is wrong. Or not ‘in’ anymore. Thank you for this post made me feel less crazy.
Yeya Benitez says
ApekeJoy says
Reblogged this on The Joy of Ordinary Days and commented:
I just had to applaud the writer of this, I saw the comic that started all of this and I found myself agreeing with it. It’s disturbing to me that half naked women are now considered the norm in music, and that my generation doesn’t seem shocked by it. I love music, and I love the power that it has, but when little girls are asking for thongs and slapping their butts, it means that the power that be, and some parents are failing this generation. I think that we owe it to ourselves to not settle for things that objectify women, and causes little girls to think that it’s okay to parade around half naked in order to gain attention.
Lashette Williams says
I was one of the commentators here on your blog who mentioned that certain artists were very sexual back in the 80s as well. I was born in the 80s and I appreciated both the comic and this blog post. And I agree completely. I honestly made the comment that I did because of others comments that I saw. Personally, I feel that people, especially on the internet, tend to blame large groups rather than take individual responsibility. When I say large groups I mean, the man, the machine, celebrities, the government, the media, company owners, marketing, etc. We are a people; a groups of individuals and as individuals we decide what is normal or not; what is okay or not. And then it just becomes the majority rule. But that does not negate the individual. My point is that looking forward from the 80s it might not look so good because somewhere along the line the majority rule decided that certain things were okay. If you(individuals in general) want that to change, more individuals need to make that change. Not just notice the difference and comment on it. As someone born in the early 80s I’ve seen less and less of the parenting I grew up with and more people upset that censorship has gone downhill, that our family values are nonexistent and that our children are raising themselves. In my opinion, if we really wanted to stop these “bad” things from happening we would have.
I have no idea why this philosophical comment came out but I see your points both here and in the comic, enjoyed both, agree with 90% and see things slightly differently on others; not necessarily disagree. Keep it coming.
Lashette Williams says
I just want to add two things. 1) I find it interesting that teenagers and 20-year-old’s were the ones mostly saying things like why are the parents not doing anything.My thoughts maybe that generation feels and/or sees a lack of parenting that we do not. I know growing up with decent parents made me notice how either overbearing and controlling or neglectful a lot of my peers parents were and are.
2) I cannot believe I did not say this the first time but I absolutely love the family mixes. Its so very rare to see mixed race families anywhere. And the variety in the family cultures makes your point about these artists being mainstream and their affects being mainstream as well.
tallncurly says
1) I don’t know if that generation feels it, but the comments I’ve read meant more that I should have drawn parents who talk with theirs kids instead of just standing there watching them, not understanding for a second it was a comic that just tried to make a point.
2) Well thank you for noticing 🙂 I come from a mixed family and I just feel like it was one of my biggest blessings in life, so yeah, I thought it was nice to put it in the comic. 🙂
tallncurly says
Hey Lashette 🙂
First, please note that you do have the right to disagree with everything I’ve said. Even 100%. I just speak my mind here. This is my blog, so these are my thoughts and my thoughts only. Everyone has the right to disagree with me as I have the right to disagree with everyone 😉
Then, also note that I didn’t write this post because of you especially. Like, at all. You did mention Janet Jackson but your comment didn’t come even close to what I’ve read on Tumblr from young kids.
You say you have no idea why this philosophical comment came out.
When I draw a comic, I share something of my life, of me, of my thoughts. That may come out in a funny way, but the true meaning behind it is always close to the values I believe in. The comic “30 years of little girls…” speaks of one of my biggest concerns in life, which is protection of childhood. When I read what I’ve read, I just needed to write this because the fact that I’m drawing comics doesn’t mean that I’m not a very concerned and serious person when it comes to certain matters.
That’s the great thing about owning a blog that some people read : you can share your thoughts with somebody else than yourself, your friends, family or dog.
Then, I agree with you 100% when you say individuals need to make that change. That’s what I wrote in my post.
Drawing the comic was not only a way to put the blame on the media and the singers and the showbusiness. I absolutely blame them all that’s for sure, but you cannot blame a society you live in without blaming yourself as you’re part of it, so you must have participated to the whole thing in a way or another. Drawing the comic was just like ringing a little bell. Look people, look at what is going on before your eyes, look what you’re maybe letting happen too, and then, if you’re a warrior and trying to change things, just laugh at it. Comics have more than one level of reading. And I don’t feel like I just comment on things. I believe writing and drawing things, sharing my thoughts in front of everybody like I do it on my blog is making a stand in a way.
So as you can see, I, as an individual, am trying to do something, even if it seems small or insignificant because it’s only comics. The only thing that matters is that you try to share your truth in a way or another. You can find mine in my comics and in my articles, but again, it’s nothing more than my own truth. 🙂
Diedra Underwood says
BRAVO!!!! Thank you, first for making the comic that you did and thank you so much for this commentary after! I looked at your comic and loved it but didn’t leave a comment after seeing many of the comments that were being posted. My eye started twitching and I have a habit on paper(or laptop) to say some things so it was best to just leave it alone. I am a child of the 80’s also and it was WAY different then.(Never thought I’d be saying that..dang I feel old!) You can’t walk down the street, turn on a tv, pick up a magazine without sex thrown in your face. Children are sponges and whatever they see they soak up. You can shelter your child all you want but once they come of an age that they have to leave out your home to go to school, it’s a wrap. From classmates influence, just walking down the street and seeing billboards, to going to a store to buy candy, they are going to see numerous images in that little amount of time.
We have placed so much on body image of a female that if you don’t show skin folks think something is wrong with you! A woman’s body in society is of no value anymore. When I walk thru stores and the only reason I know I am in the little girls section of a store is because the sizes are so small, not because it looks like clothing a child should be wearing, it’s a problem. When little girls know how to apply make up better than me, it’s a problem. When little girls in front of cameras don’t do fun posing but try to strike a provocative or “grown” pose, it’s a problem.
How did it become so common to let someone call you out your name and think of it as an endearment? I am 34 years old and you know what, I don’t want any kids. Why, when I love kids and have always worked with them in some capacity? Because I can not see bringing my child up in the world the way it is. I commend all of the parents who do, but I just can’t. Children are so precious and we as a society are really failing them.
Thanks again for doing this. Hopefully it will make some folks sit back and think. Blessings!
tallncurly says
Hello Diedra 🙂
“We have placed so much on body image of a female that if you don’t show skin folks think something is wrong with you!” That’s exactly what I’m saying. Little girls and teenagers often don’t have the strength to trust what they feel is right, so they just go with the flow and do whatever they think is expected from them. That’s why it’s so easy to play with their minds and society take advantage from this more and more. It has always worked with women, women have been brainswashed for decades by the media, taught they needed to be perfect, skinny, sexy and so on. How can someone think all of this doesn’t affect little and young girls ? It’s beyond me.
Anyway thank you for your comment and for taking the time to read Diedra ! Best ! 🙂
Anonymous says
I understand and agree with the comic and article, but really have to disagree with this:
“You can shelter your child all you want but once they come of an age that they have to leave out your home to go to school, it’s a wrap. ” You are not helpless as a parent. I am 19 (have two sisters 21 and 16) and parents can make a difference and protect the kid from a lot of the outside influence. We occasionally watched movies, watched the Olympics and figure skating, but that was the only time the TV was on. We did other things as a family and were largely sheltered from this and taught well enough/high sense of self worth that we could recognize and reject the outside influences. It probably takes more effort, but it is possible. My older sister didn’t start dating/wearing makeup until she was 16, my younger sister started wearing makeup this year and hasn’t dated yet, and for all of us self image problems from media is not an issue- not that we are exposed to much of it.
Guess what I am trying to say is you can make a difference and aren’t helpless in the face of society, maybe you still don’t want to do it and that’s fine, just had to put this out there.
Anonymous says
actually could you remove the comment I just wrote, it was said poorly and might come across wrong,
Thanks
tallncurly says
Well…
1) your comment is anonymous so I think you don’t risk much 😉
2) I actually disagree with you now, and agreed 100% with what you’ve said in that comment, so I would rather leave it there if you don’t mind. 🙂
Optimism and positivity and hope are clearly things we all need and your message if full of it. 🙂
I would just add this : Diedra I believe was, just like I did in my comic, speaking of the very little girls of today. Being a 19yo today means you were 5 in 94. You sister was 5 in 97. That’s NOT the same as being 5 now. The internet was not as big back then, sex wasn’t all over the place as much as it is today back then. I think there’s a difference.
And I’m very happy that for you and your sisters self image problems from media is not an issue, but if you look around you’ll probably see that millions of women are concerned by self image problems due to media, no matter how old they are.
But YES, definitely YES some parents do have the time and strength to be even more present and kids who have those parents are lucky. The thing is some parents just can’t or won’t do it. Many different reasons to many different lives.
mosawkwardafro says
Thank you!!!
tallncurly says
Thank you for reading it ! 😉
mosawkwardafro says
Reblogged this on Mo's Awkward Afro.
Stephanie Hicks says
You better say it girl! You really hit the nail on the head with this on. I appreciate it!
tallncurly says
Thank you ! 🙂
myriotouscurls says
Beautifully put…thank you from a fellow “80s” girl! 🙂
tallncurly says
Thank you for taking the time to read it ! 🙂
myriotouscurls says
You’re very welcome!